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Not anything like her species who are smarter, more evolved, and, well, let's face it, just a whole damn lot better. I, however, edited the material I received and then published it. The camouflage effect didnt work on photos to answer this possible question of you already in advance but why should someone make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there. Im a high strangeness researcher and have been involved with historical investigation of EBEs and UFOs for appx. I always knew I was different, things that would make perfect sense to other people were always lost on me, and I always had the sense I was something greater and more sophisticated than a mere human. I have been studying these subjects for a very long time. Read online the book Brother Veritus Community Plan at http://www.bookemon.com . Even if human beings have been tampered with, its all still part of Samsara. With one of those kinds of unstable field structures as your photo indicates I consider it somewhat improbable that that ship is capable of making a flight of that length over the ocean. The programming for the utter negation of another species (especially the reptilian species) as in your own case is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses. One possibility they have is the destruction of your social system by influence on political leaders, another is the use of advanced weapon systems which can cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions or other disasters (including weather disasters) which may seem natural to you. it was a very vivid dream, it indicated Earth would end by earthquakes if something wasnt done because of the 2 warring races from long ago. She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that meeting that I cant deny the reality and the truth of her words any longer. Lacerta said she is a student, studying us, and currently with permission to do so. You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times) and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance. Any clues I can find to locate her and meet her. Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. The native Americans, as we now call them, used to thank the earth for the food it profited them, they thanked the animal they killed for food. To dig deep into the universe and its secrets you need to research using official science and metaphysical literature. Jim Marrs made a note of Eaglesham's presentation in his latest (2013) edition of Crossfire.] You should learn to set yourselves apart from the old conditioning and not to stand quasi under the control of something or someone who has already been gone for 5000 years. This species that we are discussing and it was always in this time period that this species used a disk-shaped craft used a propulsion system which ran according to the normal principle of fusion, to be sure, but one that at that time employed a more than unconventional method for field alignment. We need to realize we are one consciousness as a human race and treat each other with kindness, respect, and humility, only then will we realize our potential. At the moment it is probably true that they lack some of the technical possibilities and the large amount of forces which they need in order to achieve their goals directly. Taken from http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html . They are extremely nave, on the contrary. Question: You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Answer: I have a certain feeling that you dont believe me, despite the fact that Im sitting here in front of you. I am so happy to have finally come across these two interviews. They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimeters. Let me think about it for a second. If we are all considered basically mindless apes what makes one human more interesting to communicate to? No. He needs to learn a lesson and Kali Yuga Age is exactly for that. They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes, some of them larger, some of them smaller. It is not the human race or your family that is not helping you; it is the System that is not designed to help people but to enslave them. By the way it's not copper they are after. because i need advice. 2) IF anyone will actually find it, how can he display (or prove) that he (or she) is a curious guest and does not mean any harm? But sometimes are posted comments of a derogatory nature that I dont let pass because of the level of consciousness this website strives to achieve and uphold. A los malos se les permite actuar y hacer su papel para ayudarnos a despertar y a volvernos proactivos y en control y responsablidad de nuestras vidas. We have at our location all together 5 large artificial light sources which generate your UV light and its warmth through gravitational sources. Regards, Wiggan. Some people think it is all a made-up story. 148 millions of years time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 millions of years time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you? The mirror of a educated opinion from an elite that is not willing to disclose the relevant information about aliens? The Fallen Angels of the Luciferian Rebellion that happened 200,000 years ago. And within this small period beings like you were created. One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open, my TV set was running and I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off. Now let's look at evolved, what does evolved mean? Some members of that human government are fully aware of our existence also partially owing to an old religious basis. It can also carry out a multiplicity of tasks, as for example, causing massive flying objects to be levitated and maneuvered. Are we willing to give our life for the truth and for the lives of our loved ones, our hosts and other honorable beings? Too much people are sceptics, they dont believe this story, but I have open mind. I find myself intrigued by your information. Mind control is one of their talents. Question: That is fascinating. However, you can try this only with the more weaker species, not with the strong. ?Maybe with her guidance and the ones like ourselves who are ready or able to accept that there are other forms of existence. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers. Very much looking forward to some sort of contact (should it ever happen within my lifetime). I probably shouldn't, but im going to leave my email Riomirabal@gmail.com If we decided to go looking for them, we'd be in big danger. Later on a person who had edited the English translation contacted me to ask me to remove her name from the post because that was affecting her ability to find a job. As long as you will not understand and believe my words I tell you the truth because we are not your enemy as long there is danger for your species. Dont ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronounceable for you, eight of them are not pronounceable even for us. A scientist in the country you call United States had built a nearly correct skeleton of our kind some years ago, but the local government (which is partly aware of our existence) confiscated the reconstruction. The worst is to keep shut up conforming to authority and the System without questioning. Watch Interview with Reptilian female Lacerta (The Lacerta Files With Clear Audio and Subtitles) by Whole Secrets 6 years ago 4.4k views I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work of fiction. If Unacknowledged is correct, then we need to make contact again and ask for help to stop the Industrial Military Complex or whomever is in charge of these super black projects that control the earths energy for personal gain. Question: Have both sexes these abilities? Now, your human military collected the individual pieces at first until they discovered the whole ships with the dead creatures aboard. BPM: 126. Answer: Yes. Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales. [Comment by Ole. There was and is a cold war between two of these hostile races during the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the winner in this useless struggle. There is no free will available in our society how to deal with the information in this interview because it is not embedded in a trusted, and open environment, with a free access of information, where everybody can freely judge about this subject. I dont give energy to those thoughts. If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother than your hairy skin. How do concrete paranormal powers arise? Lacerta is supposed to be some kind of sociologist yet her depiction of humanity shows a very base understanding. Since the alien species has just not given you any more information since the disagreement, they are rebuilding the systems single-handedly without actually being able to understand what kind of dangerous thing they are doing there. As a result, the entire field spectrum is shifted to a higher plasma-like condition, whereby the spectrum comes together with this harsh shifting to the opposite pole side the word is NOT correct of the force field and it resembles quite closely a gravitational shift. Can you take a look at the pictures and tell me in which of them actual extraterrestrial aerial craft can be seen? When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again. You are not. This is partly the guilty of the Illojim themselves, because they had constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms. The following is generally valid: the stronger the paranormal abilities of a species, the simpler the adaptation and the access. Id prefer to keep the name as Ole, if you can transcribe it phonetically into Japanese, writing it in Japanese characters. 8 The Scape Ore Lizard Man. Personally, I know that I am ignorant because I would like to do that. You must understand that you are not the first human civilization on the planet. I want to be put in contact with someone who has genuine information or can put me in contact with the person who interviewd lacerta. As we live today (and since thousands of years) nearly completely beneath the earth, you will not find any cadavers or skeletons of us. The Lacerta Files - Reptoids of The Inner Earth December 26, 2004 Originally published at PRAVDA OnLine from LuisPrada Website Spanish version Note of the Editor of Brother Veritus' Website These English translations were edited to correct English grammatical errors but message and intent were left intact. What if the human species is about to be wiped out, can we expect some help? If she really would like to benefit from this interview she should collect the response from people who are open minded and willing to reflect our societies attitude with the information provided in this interview. Or worse, don't think twice about it. Maybe it is advanced, but in my view it's advanced sociopath behavior. Although I do struggle to believe that they have such openings with some sort of false perception transmitters, as well as having them fitted on air/spacecraft. Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post-plasma {the fifth form of matter}. Farewell. I didn't realize how our history was completely wrong. If Lacerta would join the same or similar values I really would like to meet her to get a better understanding of the big picture and maybe contribute with my little picture. My skin is mainly of a green-beige colour more pale green and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot of the size of 1 2 centimeters) on our skin and in our face (the patterns are different for both sexes but females have more, especially in the lower body and in the face.) If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. To answer your question: it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptilian. Tambin es cierto que somos subdesarrollados y en cierta forma desprotegidos mentalmente, pero por qu no unirnos para evitar que los otros extraterrestres nos hagan dao? Relatively 'unfathomable' change is upon us all. Now, one can give you the benefit of the doubt, that only the least number of your kind have any knowledge about these alien projects which are as you explain it top secret. Those are my final words. We should try to get rid of them and to be open in order to develop ourselves to something better. This building is the tallest, largest and oldest in the entire dome for it is always situated as the first construction together with the security of the ceiling. I have been strongly interested in your species and your behavior since my youth; I had already studied your literature at that time, as well as possible. Question: Youve mentioned skeletons of your kind. Schneider was a geologist working on the surface and drilled two or more tube elevator holes capable of taking one human down in each. See his videos on YouTube. Answer: Who knows, maybe. Lets try this: You have to be clear about some fundamental facts. Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but they dont make it public, because they cant explain it and they claim, that the right bones were just missing and their reconstruction is right. @Z Luis Prada, so you did not meet Lacerta, you transcribed the interview, correct? K. reaffirms that "the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction." The Lacerta Files, part II, was composed from three original tape recordings which were made on April 24, 2000 with a tape recorder for the second interview with Shiasha. No, how should you know that. If the Illojims have the same levels of technology as the Lacertas, and Illojims put a "curse" on our genes, and Lacertas are alive from then to near now, why hadn't it remove it? Until it is too late. One more thing, Im pretty sure a game programmer can easily imagine how feldraum looks like in their mind. The oldest religions in the world dont even worship beings, they simply try to point you to the true nature of your own consciousness. Please respond. [ ] [ ] All-Star Superman [ ] Real Shapeshifters website Reptoids Research Center website 10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground (again because of the change of the climate especially on the so-called African continent.) Also kiss a frog and they turn into a princess or prince. When I talk about our subterranean home, I talk about large cave systems. I fought racism all my life, Im not gonna start today. This planet has way too many humans on it, anyway, mostly ignorant as fuck. Having said that, research that material to extract what is true but take it with discernment. The reptilian chooses to go by the name of Lacerta as more pronounceable than her actual name. (2007) and other authors. These layers contain information, as an example, about the simple structure of matter or the string frequency, but also there is stored information stemming from the development of matter. We don't say: Well, duck you are not as evolved as me, so it doesn't matter if you die. Working Group I Contribution to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Annex I, Glossary, pp. If we sit in the sun (especially naked and with our row of small back plates in the sun) our body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our hypothesis is larger and more active than yours especially when we are in sunlight. The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely but a war between two enemy alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet. Finalmente, nosotros no somos responsables de estar aqu y es muy triste que nos usen de esa manera como lo estn haciendo en este momento unos cuantos (los Iluminati). It is in any case very dangerous to be unshielded in the vicinity of the field. I was never very good in that mind things, but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even for attack. Please answere, too much please. Each life develops with time its own sense of balance in how much of ourselves, our heart and strength that we freely would offer to another without thought of due recompense. In this position I am quasi-immune against certain restrictions. There are secret teachings about such things, but Ive never learned anything about it. Have you, Reptilians, some underworld under Slovakia or Poland? That is not especially difficult. Because later in life, it might be ourselves who would be in need of a friend or assistance. I have reached my adult phase and my awareness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us.) The Essene studied and gathered knowledge to uphold this mission. Question: In the letters that I got, there was often the question, whether you could go into any greater detail regarding the advanced physics that you commented on last time. This rise causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel than very, very good. You cannot assume that all reptilians are members of these gangsters. I'm in fact insistent to the interview, and though it leaves a lot of questions, like why would they hide in caves. It is a fact that John C. Rademacher of Granbury, Texas, discovered a Thirdly, I noticed something above as an oddity. He says "Reptilian words are like Egyptian Middle Eastern pronunciations with a lot of SSSS snake hissing sound in their words "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh" with a very very strong pronunciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds in their everyday languages.""The following should confirm to anyone with an open . It is difficult to describe something like that to you, for it is a completely different set of surroundings and culture from what you are accustomed to in your life on the surface. We are native terrans. Lacerta belongs to an old reptilian race of our planet but it is not of the same renegade ET race that worked with the Anunnaki and the Luciferian Rebellion and with the shadow government in the secret space program. Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name Lacerta when you are among humans and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the surface of earth. It is suspected one or both craft lost high speed navigation control after its guidance system was intersected by the new extremely high-power Radar Bands, causing the craft to crash near after making contact on Mack Brazels farming property and coming down in Corona, NM (100 Diameter x 18 disk); the other near Kingman. It was by means of that device that you saw for the first time that you had understood the entire concept fully incorrectly and that you had reconstructed it fully incorrectly. They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this induced image has nothing to do with their real appearance. If you read this and my friends own email us back. I must admit to being just a little tiny bit skeptical about the whole thing. The legitimacy of this is questionable, but asking what if allows for us to become more open-minded and aware. Ms Lacerta: Its fantastic if you guys really are here. Now, back to the essentials: Plasmanow, with plasma I dont mean just hot gasas the concept is generally simplified by your peoplebut rather I mean a higher aggregate condition of matter. We can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you. You dont look like us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species. She's not much older than i am. Even those extraterrestrial species which are inclined to act with antagonism towards you are not Species of the Evil One, even though they operate negatively with respect to your own race. And so many questions rise of course from this interview, as, for example, why not asked, in the interview, descriptions or names, more intel about the 3 species that are specially nefarious to humankind (or did she ask him to remove that from the transcription, maybe, but, then, why?). You remember this business of copper fusion? I assume it was either in Swedish or in German, since some expressions are German (like Raumfeld). In the case of a German version I would not need any support. As I already said, we were in direct contact in the last several centuries with some of your more primitive human tribes; these tribes had themselves succeeded in breaking through the old creation programming; they were able to meet us without tension, hate and total rejection. Question: What will happen when the war begins? Answer: No, I wear this human every-day-clothing only when Im among humans. These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behavior, they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools and the use of fire as help to warm them especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive. I know that Creator has nothing but love and he does not judge and he does not have a hell. We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then what have happened after the publication of my message. The main difference between you and us is that we must eat flesh, because our body needs the proteins. I am now at the crossroads of where do I go from here. Its been called many things by humans over the centuries. Though I am not a Christian, the Bible states, "Only a fool says in his heart: 'There is no God' ". I will send this shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and to understand the transcript. Some of them especially those in the oceans were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had changed. First no one would be stepping or destroying the colony. After reading the talk with Lacerta, I ask myself: What sense does it have to me to continue living simply without thinking of this truth and ignoring the future that awaits me and my species or the end? All matter that you see, every creature, every planet and star in this universe, has an information-energy equivalent in the sphere of influence which is located on a main field the general level {of things}. In addition, not everyone of your abductees is one and some of the aliens in their reports are really just imagination or lies. If you read a report about a sighting of a metallic bright-gray cigar-shaped cylindrical object with a length of there are different types let me say between 20 and 260 of your meters and if this object had made a very deep humming sound and if there were 5 bright red lights on the metallic surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end) then its likely that someone of you have seen one of our ships and this means that it was either partly defect or that someone of us was not careful enough. These are parts of a transcript of an interview Ive made with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. He tells us that the kaloo had flying machines used in war and that this war raged far and wide culminating in a catastrophe that killed almost everything. 100% PCR options. At the same time, it proves that magic does not exist but esper does along with Godel God Theorems. That is as primitive as it is ridiculous. 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