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But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. Dont get me wrong, I do And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg Okay, Im going to give you some choices. What is the thesis word or the wind? Thats such a wonderful question. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing.. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. Youll see why in a minute. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. Tippett: Right. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. hoping our team wins. Harley at seven years old. Find them at fetzer.org. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost, letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and, the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough, of the mother and the child and the father and the child, and enough of the pointing to the world, weary. Tippett: The thesis. that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving So we have to do this another time. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. what you would miss. Limn: Yeah. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. Two entirely different brains. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? And the title comes from when youre planting a tree and youre looking for where the sun is the right space, you can draw where the circles are, and theyll tell you to plant where the circles overlap. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. A dream. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. And it says, You are here. And I felt like every day Id write a poem was literally putting that little, You are here dot on a map. Yeah. To be made whole for all its gross tenderness, a joke told in a sunbeam, with their fish tanks or eight-tracks or and then, People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. I think we all came a little bit more alive. letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. Limn: and you forget how to breathe. Limn: Kind of true. We speak the language of questions. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. And I think about that all the time. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. And also Im so happy to be together with you in the old-fashioned flesh, which we no longer take for granted. And now Tippett has done it again. We hold each other. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. Transcription by Alletta Cooper Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. This might be hard for some of you right here. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? like something almost worth living for. The wonder of biomimicry. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . Yeah. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. Definitely. Learn more at. Tippett: this is how vitality looks like. Too high for most of us with the rockets. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. Written and read by This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. Its the thing that keeps us alive. April 4, 2008. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., At the top of the mountain podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful . We hold each other. and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. Limn: I do think I enjoy it. Why not that weed? Our entire world is spent that way. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow, Actually, thats in Bright Dead Things. and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. Come back, not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. Limn: Oh, thank you. And I think when were talking about this, were talking about who we are right now, because were all carrying this. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . Tippett: I have your books, and theres some, too. It wasnt used as a tool. It just offers more questions. Yeah. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough We read for sense. And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. What was it? The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Krista Tippett, host of award-winning NPR program "On Being", and poet David Whyte discusses several of the life-sized concepts addressed in Tippet's book, _. song. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of. We prioritize busyness. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. Theres a lot of different People. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. Perhaps In 2014, Tippett was awarded the National Humanities Medal by U.S. President Barack Obama . Yeah. Image by Danyang Ma, All Rights Reserved. Look, we are not unspectacular things. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. red glare and then there are the bombs. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Just the title of this, I feel is such an invitation and not the kind of invitation that was being made. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. brought to its knees, clung to by someone who On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. And I knew that at 15. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. No, question marks. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. teeth right before they break Amanda Ripley began her life as a journalist covering crime, disaster, and terrorism. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. to pick with whoever is in charge. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. And what of the stanzas Copyright 2023. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. But at a deeper level, she says, we are trapped in a pattern of distress known as high conflict where the conflict itself has become the point, and it sweeps everything into its vortex. Limn: Right. Limn: Yeah. We touch each other. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. Yet what Amanda has gone on to investigate and so, so helpfully illuminate is not just about journalism, or about politics. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. I really love . And its true. They bring us together with others, again and again. We want to orient towards that possibility. Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen is one of the wise people in our world. Limn: Yeah. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. nest rigged high in the maple. There is also an ordinary and abundant unfolding of dignity and care and generosity, of social creativity and evolution and breakthrough. Tippett: Yeah. Weve come this far, survived this much. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. So maybe just to use a natural world metaphor to just dip our toes into the water, would you read Sanctuary? What. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough rolling their trash bins out, after all of this is over? All right. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. Tippett: Which also makes it spiritual practice. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Before the divorce. So its actually about fostering yourself in the sun, in the right place, creating the right habitat. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Yeah. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg, my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. No, question marks. And I feel like the thing that always kept coming back to me, especially in the early days was, What does it do? Well right now it anchors you to the world again and again and again. Yeah. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, The Hurting Kind. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. Tippett: Maybe that speaks for itself. You should take a nap. [laughter] I know its cruel. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Thats so wonderful. Yeah. Anthem. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. Interesting. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . But let me say, I was taken You boiled it down. Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. I think its definitely a writing prompt too, right? We can forget this. Suppose its easy to slip If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. and hand, the space between. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. Its wonderful. Shes teaching me a lesson. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Limn: Yeah. Renamed On Being with Krista Tippett, the show was broadcast on more than 400 stations nationwide and, as a podcast, was regularly downloaded millions of times a month. Page 20. Limn: Yeah. And that was in shorter supply than one would think. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. Our conversations create openings. The Osprey Foundation a catalyst for empowered, healthy, and fulfilled lives. I could. And this is about your childhood, right? Yeah, it was completely unnatural. So its a very special place. The term "compassion" -- typically reserved for the saintly or the sappy -- has fallen out of touch with reality. The Hearthland Foundation. Tippett: I also think aging is underrated. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt, and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. And that was in shorter supply than one would think. And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. by the crane. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you. [audience laughs] I have a lot of poems that basically are that. The Adventure of Civility. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. The conversation of this hour always rises as an early experience that imprinted everything that came after at On Being. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around Ive been reading Ada Limn for years, and was so happy when she was named the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. And I think about that all the time. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. two brains now. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. I mean, isnt this therapeutic also for us all to laugh about this now, also to know that we can laugh about it now? And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Why that color? I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. Where being at ease is not okay. I write. Tippett: I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. Theres whole books about how to breathe. Musings and tools to take into your week. And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, , I dont want you to witness my body. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. Its the . the collar, constriction of living. the date at the top of a letter; though [laughs]. So Im hoping. and you forget how to breathe. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in . enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy If youre having trouble writing or creating or whatever it is you make, when was the last time you just sat in silence with yourself and listened to what was happening? We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. And were you writing. Its repeating words. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. Before the apple tree. That is real but its not the whole story of us. even the tenacious high school band off key. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. Many of us were having different experiences. on the back of my dads Limn: Yeah. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. We touch each other. This is amazing. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Unknown. Before the ceramics in the garbage. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. 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